WEDDING TONIGHT



Tonight sometime after six we will have a wedding at the church for two of our neighbors who live on the street. Jim and Laura have been together a long time, but Jim was recently was diagnosed with a very serious illness and they want to give witness to their love. Their friends from the street will be invited, but they also want everyone from St. Andrew’s and from the community to know they are also invited. Tom Mitchell will provide music. Hopefully we will have a bit of a crowd to celebrate the event. Afterward, our typical thursday meal will be offered to those who need food, and to those who come to the wedding.

Layton William’s response to the APTS letter

My teachers, mentors, and friends,

I have known since I first read the letter you released that I wanted to respond to you. I have known that you would receive many other letters and I have wondered whether it was worth anything to add my voice, but you all have taught me that my voice matters, and so I will speak. Others have written from the perspective of the broader issues at stake, and I believe that is an essential part of the conversation. But I want to speak personally, because I believe this is all so deeply personal. In fact, I think somewhere underneath the problematic language of this letter, I imagine you were making the same argument: this is all so deeply personal and we would do well to remember it.

My response to the letter you unanimously stood behind was—like many others’—one of deep hurt and betrayal. In your call to “mutual forbearance” and refrain from “premature resolution”—I heard a scolding and a warning not to push too hard for justice or equality at the risk of others’ comfort or sense of belonging. In response I wondered what value there is in a sense of belonging that founds itself in the exclusion (fully or partially) of others. In the past year, I have just begun to understand the weight of history I will carry by being an out ordained queer pastor in the PCUSA. In your pleas for slow, careful movement and your warnings against “haste”—I saw the decades of struggle and pain and hard-won progress of those who have come before me collapsed into the phrase “too soon.” I heard a call to prioritize kindness over integrity and unity over justice—as if these things did not share one beating heart. As if there could ever be true kindness and unity without justice and equality.

I knew, of course, that this letter was not meant to address only me and others like me. But in as much as it seemed to respond to an assumed possibility of imminent departure, I wondered why it was addressed to us at all. What better example of “forbearance” can you imagine than those who have stayed within this church year after year and decade after decade despite abuse, dismissal, injustice, and inequality? What better example can be identified as commitment to the church than those who have invested their lives and livelihoods to ministry even when their ordination has been denied to them on the basis of their God-given identity? What better show of faith is there than those who have remain true to their calling and committed to the Church, even when it has cost them their families, their communities, their safety? What better picture of kindness is there than those who have stood before couples and joined them together in marriage even while their own marriages go unrecognized?

Might I suggest that such as these have something to teach the whole church about what loving kindness is? That is, we will fight for the Church that God calls us to be. We will speak truth. We will name injustice. And then, when others refuse to listen, when others refuse to respect and include us, when others abuse us in the name of the God who has called us, we will stay. But we will never stay quiet when there are still things in need of saying. We have too much love for the Church to settle for less.

I want to say that what was so deeply hurtful to me about this letter, was that what it seemed to be saying was so contrary to the radical inclusion, love, and embrace that so many of you have offered me in my time here and taught me to embody in my own ministry. You have been parents to me when my own could not be, you have affirmed my call and championed me when my community of origin would not, you have taught me a theology of radical love and grace when the theology I had been raised in made me feel only shame and fear. Over the past week, I have at some point thought of each of you individually—seen images of times spent in your offices and classrooms, moments that have challenged me and shaped me and taught me to believe in and fight for a better church—and I have wept. I have cried so much at the thought that these same professors and mentors who have sat with me in those dark places and taught me to hope in the face of seeming hopelessness, would now sign their names to a document asking me to hope less. To temper my faith in the Church that could be and my call to work for it without compromise.

I have had many conversations about your words over the past several days. On several occasions, I’ve had the opportunity to hear some of you clarify your intent and apologize for the other interpretations the letter has allowed. I have heard you say that your intent with this letter was precisely the opposite of how many of us have read it. That, in fact, you meant for your support of queer persons like myself to be assumed, and that you were urging others to be respectful of us and our need for justice. Some of you have admitted naivete and regret at the pain your words have caused. And hearing these things, I have wept again. I have taken great, gulping breaths of relief at the reassurance that you are not something other than I trusted you to be.

But I want to speak boldly and say, “It is not enough.” Intention is important. But I have learned in my writing and preaching that when words are spoken aloud, intention quickly becomes the shadow of interpretation. There are many who will read and interpret this letter for whom your support of equality, inclusion, and justice is not a foregone conclusion. If this letter created doubt so quickly in hearts like mine who have directly encountered your support and love, imagine what it might stir up in less informed hearts. If it is true—as has been said—that there is no confusion among you about your support for queer people in the church—then I wonder if that too might be worthy of public declaration.

Perhaps no such thing has been done before. But you were some of the first people to tell me that I could be queer and called to ministry—and so let me now tell you that there can be immense power in being first. I know that there is great risk in speaking bold and potentially divisive truth, but I also know that the call to faith is also a call to risk. I have so much hope for what might be accomplished if the wider world—even those who disagree and especially those who could never imagine it—knew the best parts of this institution—the parts that I have seen and been lifted up by.

I’m not really asking for another letter—that is a bit more literal than I am intending to speak. I suppose what I’m asking for is that you be just as public, just as vocal, just as convicted, and just as faithful in naming your support for justice and equality as you have been in this public call to “mutual forbearance.” I do not want you to be who you are not, but rather to live into the truth that you each have so thoroughly taught me: that the best way to do justice AND love kindness is to be fully and unapologetically who you are—who God has called you to be. And who that is—from my experience—is an institution that lifts up its queer students, like myself, as valuable leaders for the future of the church. An institution that believes that we are all called into relationship, and that such relationship is founded, ultimately, not in empty kindness or tempered passions, but in vulnerable authenticity and deep belief in the value of every human being.

Thank you for cultivating in me a faith in the love of God that gives me courage to call out moments when I don’t see that love being embodied—even when those moments come from people I love and respect.

So very sincerely,

Layton Williams

Rev. Remington Johnson’s response to APTS letter

When I first read the seminaries letter I found it rather benign but after sitting with and seeing a few reactions from my peers it strikes me as a bit of a cowardly stance. I’m all for peacemaking but peace at what cost? If our peace, our mutual pew sharing, comes at the lessoning of one Christian witness over another than I find this call for mutual forbearance similar to a call for those subjugated in other contexts to continue to remain, or rather actively work to keep their lights under a bushel ( starts humming this little light of mine…) If the issue were rather a theological one where we were simply pontificating on whether the host was actually flesh or not this would be an easier place for mutual forbearance as whether the host is flesh or not does not reflect my actual identity as a child of God. As this issue is one of identity, mutual forbearance calls for our brothers and sisters to hold pieces of their identity, their child of God-ness, in stasis so that more light can break in seems to lack a realistic understanding of the queer identity and witness. ( or possibly the just plain old Christian witness) Rev. Remington Johnson M,Div 2012

Rev. Katrina Shawgo’s response to APTS letter

Dear colleagues,

 

The letter that was recently crafted by Austin Presbyterian Theological Seminary faculty requesting “mutual forbearance” was quite surprising. I’ve taken a few days to consider it, and have been in conversation with area clergy, alumni, and students about its contents.

First, let me say, I do not believe the faculty had malicious intent in publishing this letter. I believe they thought it was a nice, middle-of-the-road sentiment calling for churches, pastors, and lay people on each side of contentious issues to stick it out. I believe that many faculty may have been surprised at the push back. I believe straight privilege can make it difficult to see clearly the impact of our words on LGBTQ people.

People of privilege would do well to remember that we are invited into liberation movements; they do not belong to us. We do not determine their direction, but walk alongside our friends as allies. When there is a question of direction or action, we should consult the marginalized, not presume to know what is best.

To those of us who already have what we want, be that ordination, marriage, tenure, or a place of standing among our denomination, it is easy to ask others to wait. It is easy to insist on patience. It is easy to suggest forbearance. We lose nothing. We go on about our lives and nothing changes for us. But behind statements like the one released by this faculty are real people…waiting.

You know them. They are brilliant, gutsy, feminist, Methodist lesbian women turned away for ordination. They are young, fiery, outspoken Presbyterian gay men forced to temper their speech for the comfort of their oppressors. They are same gender couples, your own students, seeking to seal the covenant of marriage in the beautiful Shelton Chapel. You taught them. You worshipped with them. You encouraged them.

I’m deeply saddened that you weren’t more thoughtful of the way this letter might be heard. I’m grieved that the students and alumni of APTS cannot count on their faculty, a faculty who privately voices support, to make a public statement of support to their LGBTQ students. Instead, the faculty chose to make a statement requesting non-action. Status quo. Waiting.

You ask them to wait for what you already have. This is heartbreaking. It is unfair. It is unjust. I hope you all will reconsider, and instead encourage other seminaries to throw their support behind the radicals they produce. Let us be bold instead of tepid. Let us not ask one more day of waiting. Not one more day. The time is now.

 

Rev. Katrina Shawgo, M.Div. ‘08

 

Rev. Judye Pistole’s response to APTS letter


I have great respect and affection for many of you at APTS (I received both my graduate degrees there), but I wish you had crafted your recent letter differently. Asking 
my sisters and brothers in Christ who are part of the LGBTQ community to linger with the issue of marriage equality until those in doubt are convinced is unjust. I do not know what others have done, but I have been informing and educating my congregation for ten years. I pastor in Oklahoma, and you do not get much “redder” than that. We have been studying scripture, meeting “out” gay people, encouraging them to be part of our church family, loving one another. There are still some doubts, but we are ready for this change.

After reading your letter one gay man who is part of our church family said to me, “I see APTS is not throwing me under the bus. Instead they are asking me in Christian kindness to throw MYSELF under the bus for the time being until the whole denomination is ready for whatever is left of me to come out??” I said to my brother in Christ, “Yes, and it appears they are asking me to smile and help you stay under there.”

I am a GA commissioner from Cimarron Presbytery, I will vote as the Spirit leads me, and I trust I will act in love and forbearance. I will also say gently, in love—I am very disappointed in your letter.

Rev. Dr. Judye Pistole, Pastor
First Presbyterian Church
628 Church Street
Alva, OK.

Bill Greenway’s response to Kevin Henderson

Kevin,

I would like to respond to your private letter of concern, and I want to thank you for relating to me a variety of responses to the recent faculty statement, some very negative, from members of Queer Alliance, among others. Please consider this to be a public reply.

First, I have a principled objection to faculty statements of the sort issued by the Columbia Seminary faculty and now by the Austin Seminary faculty. Columbia issued a similar statement basically opposed to the Iraq war back in the day, and there was a move to do so here as
well. Despite the fact that I marched on the state capitol building on two different occasions in protest of that war (I did not object to action in Afghanistan), I objected to a faculty statement opposing the war. In brief, the reason is that I think it homogenizes the faculty into a political instrument in an inappropriate way, thereby disempowering individual faculty members (and it is

important to remember in this regard that there are very real power dynamics at play within all faculties); I think such statements also overtly politicize seminaries, which I think should be preserved as the sort of place where informed argument and the power of reason, not the collective weight of any body, is the coin of the realm. Since I am on sabbatical, I was not part of this process, but when I learned of it I let my concerns be known to a senior faculty

member. Subsequently, the decision was made that this could be declared a statement of the faculty without gaining individual faculty signatures. I understand (per the
Seminary announcement) that there was a meeting in which there was a unanimous vote of the faculty present. It should be made very clear that since I am on sabbatical it would be
consistent for the President and faculty not to consult me over this process. I responded vigorously to the senior faculty member, however, when I saw that the announcement made it appear that I had signed the statement. I consider it my right, indeed, my duty as a faculty member to make clear that I disagree with the making of such statements – though I will have to take seriously and consider that I am evidently in disagreement with the Columbia faculty and all of my Austin colleagues, all of whom I respect, on this point. However, the instant an objection is made about a minority of one obstructing the action of the whole I believe my point about political co-opting of individual faculty members’ reasoning/voice is confirmed (again, because I am on sabbatical at present it would be inappropriate to say that I was excluded in this instance).

Second, with regard to the content of the letter. Here matters are complex and if, as I suspect the faculty believes, the full inclusion of queer folk, including ordination and marriage, is a foregone conclusion, there may be an argument for stressing unity in the face of powerful separatist efforts that could in the long run weaken what is historically one of the more progressive denominations in the country. I have little respect for the leaders of the separatist movement, but I have ears for

colleagues who are concerned about folks in churches who are confused in the face of separatist leadership. It is not clear to me exactly what the faculty statement is recommending, though it seems to tilt towards making no decisive new declarations at the next GA. This is a risky move, for it is arguably the sort of accommodationist position that history has judged harshly in similar contexts. However, I would need to chat at length with folks who hold this position before making a judgment about it, for I suspect that their reasoning may be complicated and politically nuanced, and that a justification for not speaking clearly and prophetically on this issue would come in the form of an argument for long-term effectiveness.

On the other hand, historically Christians are pretty affirming of clear and prophetic voices (your story about Ed Ramage was good, I remember that the main story I kept hearing in memoriam to K.C. Ptomey was about a similar time when he stood on principle in the early 60’s with regard to affirmation and inclusion of people who are black). At the least, individual faculty members (and this may include almost all of them) may want to be sure to make clear publicly that even while they support prudent, slower reformation in the institutional church, their professional theological and biblical reflection has convinced them that God loves and blesses folk who are queer, that God celebrates queer marriages as holy unions, and that God weeps over the exclusion of queers who are divinely gifted and called to ministry – God weeps for these just as God has wept for so long over the exclusion and oppression of so many women, which also continues.

Three decades ago now, several years of study and reflection led me from a conservative evangelical questioning of the fidelity of affirming women in ministry, let alone affirming folks who

are queer for being queer or for being fit for ministry or marriage, to the conviction that the essence of spiritual gifts that made folks fit for ministry, and the essence of the forms of love and commitment related to ideal marriages, allow for no critical distinction between male and female, straight and queer. Paradoxically, I later found my understanding confirmed when reading Diogenes Allen’s book on love, for while Allen explicitly objected to homosexual love and marriage, his argument about the character of love and marital love included no essential element that would preclude full affirmation of queer love and marriage. At this late date, I do not think a theological or biblical argument against queer love and marriage can be made that does not commit one hermeneutically to returning women to second-class status within church and within society (i.e., in my professional opinion we have moved beyond the point where respectable arguments against homosexuality can any longer be made – I would contend that on this issue and a few others official Catholic doctrine, which is philosophically consistent, needs finally to move past misplaced faith in Aristotle).

You will note that my affirmation of folks who are queer and queer marriage does not turn upon an appeal to rights, a predominant form of appeal within modern culture on a host of points, and one which I think neglects, and sometimes positively displaces, attention to love and justice, and the obligations to which they call us. While I will not develop a positive position here, I will note that my affirmation of ordaining and marrying folks who are queer turns upon traditional and celebrated understandings of love (above all agape but also eros), justice, and even, I would argue, marriage.

Though surely inadequate, I hope that this at least signifies a desire to offer a constructive response to your concerns. Please feel free to share this as a public response (directed especially to you and all the folks of Queer Alliance).

Sincerely, Bill

William Greenway
Associate Professor of Philosophical Theology Austin Presbyterian Theological Seminary
drbillg@me.com 

Rev. Rick Tate’s response to Mary Ann Barclay ruling

“Cliff Jumping in the UMC” – Rev. Rick Tate, pastor, Onalaska First United Methodist Church

I have been following Mary Ann Barclay’s story for many months now, and once again those of us who hope for full inclusion in the United Methodist Church have had their hopes dashed against the rocks of reality in this divisive moment within our beloved denomination.

I keep thinking about the scene in J.D. Salinger’s novel, THE CATCHER IN THE RYE as Holden Caulfield describes his dream about being in a field of rye near a cliff and a group of children are playing. Every once in a while a child falls off of the cliff. He said that he wanted to be the catcher in the rye to save the children from falling.

When I see brave young men and women called to ministry in the United Methodist Church and are denied their desire to pursue that calling because of their sexual orientation, it breaks my heart. I am honored to know Mary Ann, and I know she will have a wonderful future serving Christ.

Not everyone is able to be that brave and daring. Some are too old to jump off of the cliff. Others are afraid of heights and do not know what waits for them in the abyss of faith beneath them as they stand on the edge looking down and experience that spiritual vertigo of a whirling soul spinning and internalizing the struggle so deeply that their tears fall into the misty depths below them.

How many more cliff jumpers is it going to take before the United Methodist Church fulfills its calling to live up to the standard that it has created for itself – “Open hearts, open minds, open doors…the people of the United Methodist Church…making disciples of Jesus Christ for the transformation of the world?”

Julie Gillis response to APTS letter

Many of you know that Christopher Lucas Liz Perlman and I have been following Mary Ann Barclay‘s journey towards ordination. A finer candidate for minister, I cannot imagine from her personal strength to her in depth understanding of Weslyan Theology. Plus, she’s just awesome. I don’t know how all of you feel about organized religion. I find much of it very problematic and painful to negotiate even as I recognize a deep spiritual resonance in many communities that I’ve met (secular and non). But I recognize what can only be called “spirit” in Mary Ann as well as her partner Annanda. Call it social justice. Call it Buddha. Call it love, service, leadership, but my lord, call it what it is, a gift.

So Chris, Liz and I have been filming and documenting the process she’s gone through, and today we were out in Kerrville waiting for the decision. We couldn’t be with her but we witnessed such powerful community and fellowship, love and compassion from morning until we left to drive home. Bearing witness and providing space for this story to be heard, seen, it’s important. She is a minister and nothing can actually stop that. She lives her faith in the world, and no title will change that. She has, as they say in the church, a prophetic voice and nothing will silence it.

She is a model for living authentically and frankly, in my opinion, embodying God in the world from her love to her partner, to the service she provides others, and the message she brings. The church is truly behind, but then looking back at history, institutions usually are. The NFL seems to get it, I’m not sure why the Methodist church can’t.

As she notes in this piece, it’s not the end. It’s most certainly not. And we hope to document what goes forward because her story, like so many before her, so many happening now right now, so many LGBT youth being cast out, not able to marry or be ordained or be in fully community, those stories are sacred texts.

Regardless of your belief system, I hope you’ll continue to#standwithmaryann

— 

Producer, Writer, and Speaker
Exploring The Intersection Of Storytelling And Social Justice
http://www.juliegillis.com
http://www.bedpostconfessions.com
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“The only recognizable feature of hope is action.”
― Grace Paley

Letter from Austin Presbyterian Seminary

Dear Friends:Included is a communication written and unanimously adopted by the Austin Presbyterian Theological Seminary faculty in a Called Meeting on May 8th, 2014.

We join others in being concerned about the polarities in our Church on several fronts as we prepare for the upcoming General Assembly in Detroit. In the face of deeply divided positions, we call for a season of mutual forbearance in which, together, we might seek the mind of Christ. We ask you to join us in praying and working for a Church that  makes visible once again the unbroken Body of Christ.

Faithfully yours,

Theodore J. Wardlaw
President

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A Statement of the Faculty of Austin Presbyterian Theological Seminary

The faculty of Austin Presbyterian Theological Seminary is grateful for the invitation “to give witness to our convictions” extended by our sibling school, Columbia Theological Seminary.

Located in the heart of Texas, we serve a community comprised of students, staff, and faculty who come from a variety of backgrounds and hold a broad range of commitments. As is true of our church at large, our challenge and joy is to open our arms wide to the increasing diversity that marks our cultural context while at the same time honoring our common identity.

Our Witness to Christian Love: A Call to Mutual Forbearance

We agree with our colleagues at Columbia Seminary that schism is “a profound theological and pastoral problem.” We believe, especially in these troubled times, that it is crucial to maintain faithful relationships with one another as members of the body of Christ. Along these lines, the biblical witness charges us

To lead a life worthy of the calling to which you have been called, with all humility and gentleness, with patience, bearing with one another in love, making every effort to maintain the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace (Ephesians 4:2).

To “bear with one another,” it seems, is to be patient with each other even as God is patient with us. To put up with each other, waiting for consensus and for “yet more light to break forth.” To find ways to live together. To study Scripture, pray, and argue fairly with one another. Never to give up on our hope for unity and peace, believing the Spirit is present and working in our midst.

The Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) has a long history of encouraging forbearance as essential to our life together. The Book of Order explains, for example, “there are truths and forms with respect to which people of good character and principles may differ.” Because this is the case, it is “the duty of both private Christians and societies to exercise mutual forbearance toward each other” (F-3.0105).

Where there is forbearance, there is a table set around which we can pray, study, listen, share, debate, and mutually form one another, subjecting ourselves to the work of the Spirit as we pass the common loaf.

Mutual Forbearance and the 221st General Assembly

Our hope is that we, as disciples of Jesus Christ, might show forbearance toward one another in the conversations and debates that take place surrounding the June 2014 meeting of the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.)’s 221st General Assembly. A great many controversial questions will be raised at this Assembly. It will be tempting to retreat into camps of the like-minded and to disparage our opponents. It might seem easy for those of us who disagree with the Assembly’s actions to seek dismissal from the church’s fellowship in order to find a more sympathetic communion. Again, we urge our brothers and sisters not to act in haste.

The issues we are facing are complex. We believe a premature resolution will serve no one well. We know and love many people in our seminary’s constituency who deeply disagree and yet sit on the same pews with each other week after week. Perhaps the one thing worse than those in disagreement sitting on the same pew is those in disagreement NOT sitting on the same pew. As Ephesians teaches, unity in the Spirit means living lovingly, peacefully, gently, and humbly with one another. The “life worthy of the life to which we have been called” looks like worshipping next to those with whom we in some matters disagree.

We suggest that “mutual forbearance” means endeavoring to hear and take seriously the convictions of others even while we hold our own (sometimes differing) convictions at full strength. To exercise “mutual forbearance” does not mean being timid about that to which we are committed, but it does mean being circumspect about how we present, share, implement, and protect our commitments. We think that “bearing with one another in love” should discourage us both from pressing too quickly for changes not widely supported across the church and from opting too readily for actions that would further the schism already taking place in our fellowship. Rather, let us be drawn together to the table to which we are all invited by our Lord—to pray and converse, to listen and argue, to reflect and grow into what we are becoming as a historic communion in a new day.

Some may register the important concern that a call to forbearance can function to delay justice, and that justice delayed is justice denied. To deny justice is in no way our intent or our desire; we are, after all, called by God to “do justice” in the world (Micah 6:8). Along with promoting justice, however, we believe we are also called to “love kindness, and walk humbly with God.” Kindness toward others and humility of perspective before the mysteries of God are, we believe, pathways to preserving the unity of the church. As Paul reminded the Christians of Corinth—themselves caught in a potentially schismatic fight over the behavior of believers—we are together the body of Christ, and individually members of it. “The eye cannot say to the hand, I have no need of you, nor the head to the feet, I have no need of you” (1 Corinthians 12:21). We need to hold onto each other as we together discover what the Spirit holds in store for the church.

Mutual Forbearance and a Hopeful Church

The Church is the body of Christ. The Book of Order describes what this means for us, in part:

“The Church is to be a community of hope, rejoicing in the sure and certain knowledge that God is making a new creation. This new creation is a new beginning for human life and for all things. The Church lives in the present on the strength of that promised new creation” (F-1.0301).

We are committed to building a church that is a community of hope. We are committed to living lives that are worthy of our calling—lives that manifest humility, gentleness, patience, love, unity, and peace. Our hope is that, in us, the world may see the vision of God’s intent and be drawn toward God’s promised future.

We live in the hope that we can, as the Scripture teaches, “maintain the unity of Spirit in the bond of peace,” exercising forbearance toward one another as together we engage in the hard work of discerning the shape of God’s steadfast Word for these new days. This is the work we love, and it is the work to which we are called as faculty members at Austin Presbyterian Theological Seminary.

 

Rev. Ilene Dunn’s response to Austin Seminary letter

The recent statement of belief posted by the faculty of Austin Presbyterian Seminary fills me with enormous sadness. The larger part of my sadness is entwined with that of certain current students and their families, with certain alums and their families, and with that of all us allies who stand with the GLBTQ family. How betrayed so many must feel by those who have been their teachers and mentors and role models preaching faith’s courageous love. I’m sad, too, though, that the statement purports to be the belief of “the faculty.” Was this statement truly unanimous, an expression of all minds and hearts? Was there no one willing to point to the naked emperor, no one willing to say that peace paid for by oppression is no peace?